So Many Conrad Folts

I had decided to do a search on the youngest daughter for Christofel HÜLS' which Maria Catharina Hilts (b. abt 1725) and her husband Conrad Folts. I already had the marriage date of 16 June 1767 from our private website.

I went to Ancestry.com and typed in Conrad Folts born 1719. Under the database titled "Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Stone Arabia: in the town of Palatine, Mongomery County, N.Y." I saw a pictured of a transcribed marriage index, labeled "Vol 1. Marriages, Oct 16, 1739 to 1795" and the marriage is listed under 1767, d. 16, Juny Conrad Foltz und Maria Catharina Hieltz. I figured this must be the source that was used for the website and I recorded this in my database. (Note: this makes Maria age 42 at the time of Marriage).

Next I found four birth records listing Conrad Foltz as the father but with two different women as the wife. So I first recorded the two births that occurred after the 1767 marriage.

1768                        Parentes                     Infantes                         Susceptores
N. d. 12n April   Conrad Foltz             Anna Margretha            Christian Riegel und
B. d. 17, April     und Maria Cathrin.                                          Anna Margretha
    source: Vol 1. Baptisms and Births, page 84

1770
N. d. ** Juny      Conrad Foltz und       Jacob                             Jacob Petrj und
B. d. ** July        Maria Catharina                                              Maria Hils
    source: Vol 1. baptisms and births, page 100

Next I recorded the two births that occurred before the 1767 marriage as Conrad being married prior to Maria Catharina Hilts

1760
N. d.                    Conrad Foltz               Conrad                          Peter Foltz
B. d. 7tn Augt.     und Anna Catharina                                         und Elisabeth
    source: Vol 1. Baptisms and Births, page 21

1765
N. d. 3n Augt.       Conrad Foltz              Jacobus                       Daniel Petri und
B. d. 7n Augt.        und Anna Catharina                                      Elisabetha

I have noticed that Conrad Foltz is a common name. Therefore, the two Conrad's might be the same or two different indivduals. Also, if they are the same Conrad, why did he name two of his son's Jacob? Did the first one pass away or do one of the children go by another name, such as middle name?

I also have five other Conrad Folts listed in the Hilts and Hiltz database as follows:

Conard Folts son of Jacob Folts (d: 1822) and Catharina Hayes (b. 1779). Conrad married Magdalena Schell. This Marriage appears to be an unrelated branch to the  Hilts/Hiltz family.

Conard P Folts husband of Maria Catharina Hilts (1750-1834) granddaughter of Christofel Hüls. NOTE: This Conrad and this Maria could be the person's in the 1767 marriage record and the two birth records. This Maria would be only 17 when the marriage occurred while the other Maria would be 42 at the time of the marriage.

Conrad Folts father of Anna Margaret Folts (d. 1832) wife of Marcus Hilts (b. abt 1774) great-grandson of Christofel Hüls. Could this Anna Margaret Folts be the same Anna Margretha listed in the 1768 Baptism and Birth record? It would make Anna 64 years old at the time of her death.

Conrad Folts, father of Petri C Folts and grandfather of Bejamin Folts (1807-abt 1870) another unrelated branch to the Hilts/Hiltz Family.

Conrad Folts (1784-1850) married to Susanna Cole (1784-1850) another unrelated branch to the Hilts/Hiltz Family.

Therefore, my conclusions: I am uncomfortable attaching the marriage record of Conrad Foltz and Anna Catharina Hieltz to the daughter of Christofel Hüls and thus uncomfortable attaching the two birth records to the same daughter. At first glance, this marriage and these births have a better fit to the granddaughter of Christofel Hüls through his son Christofel Hilts. At this point, need to see actual records, not just transcribed records to see if any more information can be gleaned from the records, such as parents names of the bride and groom.

If anyone else is researching this branch, please feel free to contact me or list any of your finding in the comment area below.

Thank you,

3 generation Outline Descendant Report

The first three generations from our common ancestor:

Outline Descendant Report for Christofel Hüls

1 Christofel HÜLS b: Bet. 1670–1680, d: Aft. 1757

...... + Eva Catherina ENGEL m: Bef. 1698, d: Aft. 1725

............2 Theobald or Debald "David" HILTS b: Abt. 1698, d: Bef. Oct 1769

............  + Anna EVA d: Aft. 1745

..................3 Maria Magdalena HILTS b: 1731

..................  + Adam Joh. SCHAEFFER b: 09 May 1724, m: 11 Apr 1749, d: 08 Nov 1800

..................3 Anna Dorthea HILTS b: 01 Feb 1735, d: Aft. 19 Apr 1775

..................  + Johannes WARNER m: 26 Sep 1758

..................3 Johan Jurriaen "George" HILTS b: 06 May 1737, d: 08 Nov 1815

..................  + Elisabeth BELLINGER b: 15 Aug 1741, m: 23 Jan 1759, d: Aft. Aug 1808

..................3 Christopel HILTS b: 1738

..................  + Maria BORST b: Bet. 1735–1759, m: 10 Oct 1773, d: Aft. 1789

..................3 Catharina Elisabeth HILTS b: 24 Nov 1740

..................3 Elisabeth HILTS b: 1742

..................  + Johannes H. SCHNEIDER b:, m: Oct 1769

............2 Simon Jacob HILTS b: Abt. 1700, d: Aft. 1757

............  + ANNA

..................3 Anna Elisabeth HILTS b: 1727, d: 24 Oct 1808

..................  + Andreas "Andrew" MCKOOMS m: 13 Feb 1765

..................  + Thomas BELL m: Abt. 1745, d: Aft. 1760

..................3 Jacob HILTS b: Abt. 1737

..................3 John HILTS b: Abt. 1742

..................3 Sarah HILTS b: 1743, d: 03 Jan 1802

..................  + Adam SMITH b: 29 Sep 1740, m: 04 Dec 1764, d: 21 Jan 1824

..................3 Catherine HILTS b: 1746, d: 31 Dec 1837

..................  + John CRISTMAN b: Abt. 1752, m: 27 Sep 1780, d: Bet. 1823–Dec 1837

..................3 George Jacob HILTS b: Abt. 1748, d: Aft. 1781

..................  + CATHERINE m: Abt. 1748, d: Aft. 1781

............2 Hans Leonardt HILTS b: Abt. 1706

............2 Eva Catherine HILTS b: Abt. 1706

............2 Maria Margaretha HILTS b: Abt. 1708

............2 Christofel HILTS b: Bet. 1710–1720, d: Jan 1769

..................3 Eva HILTS b: Abt. 1737

..................3 Elisabetha HILTS b: Abt. 1741

..................  + Frederick DORNBERGER m: 07 Apr 1760

..................3 Catharina HILTS b: 1743, d: Aft. 25 May 1809

..................  + Johann Nicholas KILTS b: 30 May 1732, m: 02 Sep 1760, d: 15 Dec 1808

..................3 Godfrid HILTS b: Abt. 1744, d: 1835

..................3 Lorentz HILTZ b: Bet. 1745–1750, d: Nov 1836

..................  + Maria Catharina MILLER b: 25 Feb 1760, m: Bef. 1776, d: Aft. 13 Sep 1778

..................  + BARBARA b:, m: Bef. 1780, d: 1833

..................3 Maria Catharina HILTS b: 1750, d: Dec 1834

..................  + Conard P. FOLTS

..................3 son HILTS b: Abt. 1752

..................3 Frederick Christofel HILTS b: Abt. 1756

..................  + Juliana MEYER m: 1792

..................3 Joseph HILTS b: 1760

............2 Johann George HILTS b: Abt. 1711, d: Bef. 1790

............  + Maria Elisabeth FELLER b: 26 Jul 1712, m: Abt. 1733, d: Bef. 1790

..................3 Johann Nicolaus HILTS b: 15 Mar 1733, d: 15 Dec 1809

..................  + Elisabetha FOX b: Abt. 1743, m: 15 Apr 1760, d: Bef. 1809

..................3 Maria Eva HILTS b: Abt. 1736

..................  + Jost PETRIE Jr.

..................3 Catharina HILTS b: Abt. 1738
..................  + Johann Thomas FULMER b: Abt. 1730, m: Abt. 1761
..................3 Sabina HILTS b: Abt. 1740, d: Bef. 1773
..................  + Johan Frederick HELMER b: Bet. 1730–1740, m: Bef. 1760, d: 06 Aug 1777
..................3 Maria Magdalena HILTS b: Abt. 1742, d: 10 May 1779
..................  + Johann Henrich WITHERSTINE b: 1722, m: 17 Jun 1766
..................3 Johnannes George HILTS b: 1743, d: 03 Nov 1820, d: 03 Nov 1820
..................  + Maria MYERS b: 1743, m: 10 May 1785, m: 10 May 1785, d: 16 Apr 1830
..................3 George HILTS b: 1744, d: 14 Feb 1813
..................  + MARGARET d: Aft. May 1809
..................  + Elisabeth Catharina FOLTS b: Abt. 1748, m: 01 Mar 1769, d: Bef. May 1809
..................3 Elisabeth HILTS b: 17 Feb 1745, d: 11 Feb 1828
..................  + Melchior THUMM b: 1745, m: Abt. 1770, d: 23 Apr 1804
............2 Maria Engel HILTS b: Abt. 1714, d: Aft. 25 Nov 1738
............2 Adam HILTS b: Abt. 1722
............2 Maria Catharina HILTS b: Abt. 1725
............  + Conrad FOLTS b: 1719, m: 16 Jun 1767

As always, if you match to any of these people and you are not currently a member of the private MyFamily.com "Hilts and Hiltz Cousin" Website, please contact me so we can share information.

First Generation

I going to start with our oldest relative, Christofel HÜLS who was born between 1670-1680 in Pfalz, Bavaria now known as Germany. He died after 1757 in Schohaire, Schohaie County, New York, USA.

Information on Christofel's children came from the Early Families of Herkimer County, New York by William V.H. Barker.

Christofel married Eva Catherine Engel before 1698 in Marth, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany and had the following children:

1. Theobald or Debald "David" Hilts abt 1698-1769
2. Simon Jacob Hilts abt 1700-aft 1757
3. Hans Leonardt Hilts abt 1706 - unknown
4. Eva Catherine Hilts abt 1706 - unknown
5. Maria Margaretha Hilts abt 1708 - unknown
6. Christofel Hilts abt 1710-1769
7. Johann George Hilts abt 1711 - before 1790
8. Maria Engle Hilts abt 1714 - aft 1738
9. Adam Hilts abt 1722 - unknown
10. Maria Catherina Hilts abt 1725 - unknown.

Currently the site has information for only four of the 10 descendants: Theobald, Simon, Christofel and Johann.

If any one descends from one of these children and you aren't a member of the MyFamily "Hilts and Hiltz Cousin" site, please share your information here.

Welcome

Welcome to the Hilts and Hiltz Cousin blog. In Feb 2003, my cousin Carol Grainger created a private website titled "Hilts and Hiltz Cousins" on MyFamily.com. However, since that site is private, I want to help promote the site via this blog. I will be adding some brief outline trees to this blog to help find more family members. Feel free to post your relationship to any Hilts or Hiltz ancestors. If you are related I will past that information on to Carol who will see that you get invited to the private site. That private site has a wealth of information, with pictures, census records, vital records, bible records and more going back to our common ancestor, Christofel Huls.